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Has anyone actually practiced ninjutsu. All you guys talk about is GI Joe nijas and what to call a group of ninjas. I joined this tribe to maybe learn something about ninjas, and how to become more like one. If you are going to call this "Ninja School" maybe you should talk about stuff you must learn to become ninjas.
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Tue, December 23, 2003 - 4:47 AMFirst, Don't take this lightly Rick, this IS serious ninja school stuff, just look at the Ninjaburger post! Maybe they train on-site, you should look into it!
Second, good luck finding a school of Ninjitsu in Kentucky. The only people who practice it out there are probably the infamous beer-belly ninjas who watched way too many Sho Kosugi films in the 80's. (don't get me wrong though, Sho Kosugi is awesome and should be our headmaster!)
Third, if you do find a legitimate school, and practice Ninjitsu, you still will not BE a Ninja. To be a Ninja, you would have to be born in Japan, raised in secret, had your name removed from all historical records, practiced with a Sifu all your life, killed at least one high ranking Feudal-Japanese official with poison you made from berries and toad livers and left the scene undetected and then, maybe, you would be a Ninja. -
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Tue, December 23, 2003 - 7:53 PMWell, first there are three official ninjutsu schools in Kentucky that I have found, and one of them is about 30 mins. away from where I live. And second, I never said I was going to be a ninja, just try to be more like one. I'm not saying that this tribe is a bad place or anything. It's nice to come here and see some funny stuff. Just I thought it would be more informational about ninjas. And yes I would have loved to be a real ninja. Maybe there should be something other than a ninja but was like one, but didn't have to be born in Japan. Did I just confuse you? I think I confused myself.
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Sun, July 2, 2006 - 9:30 PMI bet to differ. In our modern day I dont need to to be born in japan, have no identity, and make deadly berry cocktails.
I kill all types of people ALL the time, destroy pirates, proficient at many weapons and wear my tactical ninja gear always.
If youve noticed there are no more feudal officials around any more to knock off.
As long as your cool, swave, badass, and take asskicking seriously, you can be a ninja in my camp any time.
I myself practaice all types of martial arts, mainly keep my training on the down low, and by wiping out all witnesses to my decapitations, my identity by default is secret, all with a techno breakbeat sound track playing on my iPod.
CM
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Fri, September 7, 2007 - 12:01 AMI do not agree with this message: "Third, if you do find a legitimate school, and practice Ninjitsu, you still will not BE a Ninja. To be a Ninja, you would have to be born in Japan, raised in secret, had your name removed from all historical records, practiced with a Sifu all your life, killed at least one high ranking Feudal-Japanese official with poison you made from berries and toad livers and left the scene undetected and then, maybe, you would be a Ninja."
While partially accurate, I do not completely agree. The last actual "official" ninja in employ to the Government of Japan was Toshitsugu Takamatsu. He is the teacher of Masaaka Hatsumi. Who is Grandmaster and lineage holder of all remaining "recognized" schools of ninjutsu.
Toshitsugu Takamatsu was a ninja, employed by the Japanese government for purposes of espionage in Manchuria.. he was born in Japan but not raised in secret.. and I doubt he killed any of his employers, lol. But nonetheless he was ninja. Recognised globally as such.
Oh and btw, ninja train with a shidoshi.. sifu is a Chinese term for teacher.. (Japanese: sensei, shidoshi)
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Sifu (師傅 or 師父; Pinyin: shīfu, Cantonese: sifu) is a Chinese term for a teacher. The character 師 means “teacher”. The meaning of 傅 is “tutor” and of 父 “father”, both characters are read fu with the same tones in Cantonese and Mandarin, creating some ambiguity. A similar term often used in the Mandarin north is 老師 lǎo shī (Cantonese lousi), "elder teacher".
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Tue, December 23, 2003 - 9:52 AMI can do a cartwheel kick.I can also roll out of a 2 story fall.Im too scared to try any higher.
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Tue, December 23, 2003 - 8:53 PMRick -
been practicing for the last 10 years. Here's the school I attend:
www.bostonmartialarts.com
to learn more about ninjas in general, try:
www.quest-l.com
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www.skhquest.com
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Wed, December 24, 2003 - 2:30 AMJust having fun Rick, I do hope you find a good school, but just don't let the lure of the name hook you into a martial art that may not be as well suited to you personally as another. I got hooked on one particular art and practiced it for a couple years. After trying a few other forms, I knew I had made the right choice for me. However, I did learn that every martial art has it's own merrits and deserves respect. Keep your options open because if your serious, you'll be learning this art for years, possibly the rest of your life! -
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Thu, December 25, 2003 - 8:52 PMAn excellent point - keep in mind that nearly every martial art is a possibility. The main difference? The quality of the teacher - a great teacher can make ANY art worthwhile, and a lousy teacher can destroy even the finest art. -
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Sat, December 27, 2003 - 7:20 PMYes. I have tried Karate but I didn't really like it that much. It was too simple, and I didn't like the class, too many students. I would rather be taught in a very small class if not alone, by a very experienced teacher. I have done research on many different kinds of arts and I like ninjutsu. But I also like the style of Jeet Kune Do. I have been thinking of inventing an art of my own but I really think I need more experience with others and I still have to find out how to make it an official one. -
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Sat, December 27, 2003 - 7:47 PMAgain - it depends on who you find. Karate can be an EXCELLENT martial art, full of richness and complexity, if you can find a good teacher to make it come alive. There's a lot to it - sadly, most of the practitioners in America today haven't really dug into it.
As for rolling your own - if you want to do something that looks stylistically cool, go for it. But if you want something for self-protection, best of luck, because you'll need to field test it to make sure it works... -
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Sat, December 27, 2003 - 8:02 PMExactly! Teacher around here at these classes that you find in the phonebook are just other students with a higher belt level than the students. To me, belts mean nothing. All they are is a way of showing how long you have been training. It doesn't always show skill. And most teachers that I have seen just give them out like candy. For instance, my brother has been in Tae Kwon Do for about two years and already he is almost a red belt (he is blue belt red stripe) and I know he didn't deserve it. He doesn't have the feeling for martial arts as me and you and doesn't try. He trys anything to get out of class and not go and he doesn't practice at home. I have constantly asked him to spar with me, so we both get some practice, but he doesn't want to. I agree to handicaps for me but he still isn't confident in himself enough. As for me inventing my own I would like an art that mixes style with fighting. Quick and powerful. Thats the way I like it. But like you said, I need someone to practice it with. -
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Sat, December 27, 2003 - 10:23 PMPicasso was able to sketch and paint like the great Renaissance masters before he tried abstract paintings and helped develop new styles like cubism. He was able to do this partly because he had an incredible foundation in the arts, and the skill to harness his learning into a new form.
Likewise, Bruce Lee was raised as a martial artist, it was part of his life. He also was able to develop a new form with the "way of the intercepting fist".
I'm sure you see a pattern here. These people had to master what came before them, they had to learn to crawl before they could run. For over 5000 years people have been trying to figure out how best to defend themselves. I would keep that creative enthusiasim alive, but temper it with some real research and lots(years) of practice with many forms. -
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Sun, December 28, 2003 - 1:07 PMI agree with James 110%.
Rick: if ypu want "an art that mixes style with fighting" I would recomend Shaolin Kung Fu.I personally do not have any experience with Ninjitsu training, but I do know that the third Shaolin form I learned was the Black Belt form for the Ninjutsu school that was in the last tournament I visited.Good luck finding a true Shaolin school in the states tho.That may be very difficult, but well worth it.
I hope I didnt offend anyone.I also agree that the teacher has a huge effect on what a student can learn in any art.And im not trying to strart a flame war.Im just speaking from experiance, because thats all I have.
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Sun, December 28, 2003 - 3:06 PMYes I agree with you James. That is why I haven't even tried to create my own. I know I need MUCH more practice. I am looking for a good school for any art really around here. But most of them are the run-of-the-mill class. Nothing special about the teachers, as we have been discussing about the teachers around here. Some day I hope to create my own art but I am not ready yet. And I have been looking at Kung-Fu styles. I will check the Saolin Kung-fu style out. I hope there is some kind around here.
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Sat, September 8, 2007 - 3:19 AMKudos, kudos to this wise posting Santos.
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Mon, December 29, 2003 - 1:04 PMTheres something about Tae Kwon Do, at least in America, where it dosn't seem anyone actually earns there belts. I took Karate for a while, and you'd be lucky if you earned a new belt every 6 months (the average was a little under a year), but most Tae Kwon Do students get a new belt every month, if not sooner.
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Tue, December 30, 2003 - 5:48 PMI miss talking about GI Joe ninja's -
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Tue, December 30, 2003 - 6:17 PMHaha, ok... umm... I don't pay attention to GI Joe, so how many ninjas are there. Are you happy now?
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Sun, February 15, 2004 - 3:25 PMi my self haven't trained in yrears but i think this may be of help.
i trained under Mike Asuncion from the U of M bujinkan dojo in ann arbor michigan found here
www-personal.umich.edu/~mza/ninpo.html
mike yearly goes to japan to train with Hatsumi Masaaki. www.bujinkan.com/
who as far as i have been taught is the most recgonized grand master in bujinkan budo taijitsu. he's also the guy who taught stephen hayes. most of hatsumi sensei's students go to train with him once a year in japan. it might be rude to ask this of a sensei but you'd want to make sure that he's not some joker who thinks he knows martial arts.
as far as books go i'd mainly recommend books writen by Hatsumi Masaaki. only because he is the guy who teaches everyone else. hope this helps.
brandon
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Tue, January 18, 2005 - 4:11 PMHey mi amore is reading a book, one that shouts out some real ninja melodies, I've got one note for you...
Ninjas were borne from the ground and the street wise it's the same as "malicia" in Capoeira... a combanation of all trades and crafts in order to survive... so even the GI Joe's got some knowlodge!
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Tue, March 28, 2006 - 8:52 AMFYI, Ashida Kim doesn't get a lot of respect from those who've trained Bujinkan.
As someone noted above, if they haven't trained under Hatsume they're probably not "ninja".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bujinkan
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Sat, April 1, 2006 - 12:41 PMDoesn't much matter to me. All I needed was some basics to push off of and help cement some of my own methods. This man gave them to me. Sure, I might not be following a true line of injuitsu, but I'm makiung my own. I'm pulling in more than the one style of method. The way I see it, the old ways have almost been lost, or else are archaic. Most of the time. But the first ninja's started out with nothing, they may or may not have pushed off of hunting into what we now see as ninjuitsu. Ninpo. The way of shadows. Whatever the hell you want to call it. Whos a truer ninja, the one who learned his arts from a master, or the one who created his own? -
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Wed, August 9, 2006 - 6:45 AMdoes anyone know of any ninjitsu schools in New Jersey?
Ive been trying different styles of martial arts all my life, and ninjustu has really caught my eye, but i havent had any luck finding ninjustu schools in New Jersey, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Wed, April 15, 2009 - 4:48 PMthis is probably the most epic post ever.
